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Grow Fast Podcast with Mark Shriner I had the good fortune to be a guest on Mark Shriner's new Grow Fast Podcast. Mark and I talked about selling, Taoism, and the power of podcasting. Mark graciously gave permission to have this interview shared with the Sales Babble listeners. I'm excited to share this babbling today!  The Dao of Sales, or How to Sell without "Selling" Mark described the interview this way "Pat Helmers is the Host of the Sales Babble Podcast. Pat is also the Founder of Habanero Media and a tech startup consultant. In this episode, Pat talks about the book he's writing called The Dao of Sales Babble and explains how, oftentimes, it's much more productive and rewarding, not to force sales. Instead, Pat argues, that we would do better trying to sincerely understand our prospect's needs, and helping them to meet those needs. Mark and Pat also discuss opportunities for new podcasters and the benefits of hosting a niche podcast." Sales Babble shares selling secrets for non-sellers.  Masterful sell